Friday, August 25, 2017

Tektronix 2465B Repair - Part II

After a couple months I finally found some time to revisit my sad Tektronix 2465B auction find. At this point the power supply was rebuilt, and I had isolated U950 being a culprit by grabbing good hybrid ICs out of my working 2445B to test. Once the replacement U950 arrived it was placed in the 2465B which solved the numerous display issues and returned a horizontal sweep.

 Tek 2465B with horizontal trace restored

To make matters worse, while troubleshooting I did not have one of the hybrids (U700) lined up exactly correctly after swapping it out from my 2445B. As a result of this when torquing it back down very lightly I heard a terrible crack. The edge of the ceramic board inside the hybrid had caught on the connector mounted on the board and cracked the hybrid substrate. So this would also have to be replaced because of my own mistake. I still had a good U700 from my 2445B for testing until the new hybrid arrived. Luckily these are cheap.

Tektronix 2465B Hybrids

A new issue was apparent at this time involving the horizontal sweep and possibly trigger systems. At low sweep speeds the scope would behave correctly, a nice sweep would occur with a waveform being properly triggered. The issue I was seeing involved at higher sweeps above 1ms/div. At these speeds the horizontal sweep would intermittently show up, sometimes not being visible altogether. If a signal was present I could get a waveform to display for a single sweep when changing either the sweep speed or trigger options.

Researching into the issue I could not locate anyone who had this exact issue on any forums, most issues with horizontal sweep resulted in people just recommending to replace various hybrids. I knew this was not the case for me, looking back to the service manual(s), there was no exact description of this issue. At this point I began following the troubleshooting flowchart for the horizontal section item by item verifying voltages and waveforms. With everything looking fine, I was beginning to reach desperation as there was not much more to check. Towards the end of the flowchart there was a test involving removing the plug to J102 which is a ribbon cable that runs to an option board. This specific option board was for TV sync options which I really have no need for. Testing this I removed this connector and powering on the unit resulted in a fully functional unit, sweep and trigger was now working at all time divisions. All issues were now gone.

I really don't care to look into repairing this TV option board, pulling it out didn't show any obvious signs of problems. I don't plan on needing to troubleshoot NTSC waveforms so I am just going to leave it disconnected for now.

Tektronix 2465B Working

Some last items that I need to look at are trivial. I need to replace the scale illumination light bulbs, with 2400+ hours on the scope, all three are burnt out. I need a replacement knob for the channel 2 vertical position. This has actually been harder to find than I expected. Being patient I'm sure one will show up on eBay soon. The last issue will require some more investigation though. The traces themselves are slightly fuzzy, not a crisp trace like I see on my 2246 or 2445B. The rest of the display is perfectly focused, on screen menus look nice and sharp. I adjusted the focus, astig, and the gain + focus knobs on the high voltage board, none of them helped the traces. So not quite sure about this one. It's not a super big issue but still bothers me somewhat.

As a final note I will need to get some proper Tektronix probes for this scope, my P6105s are not designed for this 400MHz bandwidth.

Thursday, May 4, 2017

Tektronix 2465B Capacitor Replacement and Repair

Recently and randomly I was notified from a friend about a local company liquidation auction for a local Unisys facility that was shutting down. Hoping to score some cool old vintage computer hardware I scoured the item listings to no avail. Nothing was really of interest, a lot of office furniture, shelving units, misc bins of random hardware bits. Ten years ago I would have been all over this auction, bidding on random carts of hardware to see what I can find but I just don't have time or the space for that anymore. After looking at a hundred or so pages of auction photos, one thing did catch my interest.

Hiding on an equipment cart was a Tektronix 2465B, sitting all by itself, the only piece of test gear in the entire auction out of hundreds of lots. I'm sure it was dead, the odds of it working and still being there were very unlikely.  Having a 2445B, I have always wanted a 2465B, being the top of the line version at the time only second to the 2467 with its microchannel plate CRT. I ended up winning it for like 50 dollars including the cart which actually ended up being a really nice heavy duty equipment cart. Even if this scope was totally toast, it would still be a win for parts.

Once I actually picked up the scope and had a good look at it, it was in pretty good shape. The only physical damage was the vertical position knob for channel 2 being broken off, but this was visible in the auction picture. The rest of the scope was in really good condition, clean with no other physical damage.

Tektronix 2465B

Having restored my 2445B and knowing this will need a full re-cap, I ordered all the replacement caps for the power supply and A5 PCB boards. The power supply for the entire 24NN series was basically identical with a few minor revisions. One thing I did notice though was some of the capacitor values were different in this 2465B compared to the capacitor list I had for my 2445B. Instead of placing the order based on my old parts list, I created a new list based off the values in this scope. Some parts on my old DigiKey list were no longer available anyway.

Here is the updated DigiKey parts list:

Quantity Part Number Manufacturer Part Number Description
10 P10267-ND EEU-FC1E470 CAP ALUM 47UF 20% 25V RADIAL
2 P13465-ND EEU-EB1H4R7S CAP ALUM 4.7UF 20% 50V RADIAL
1 P5874-ND ECA-2WHG3R3 CAP ALUM 3.3UF 20% 450V RADIAL
4 P10769-ND EEU-FC2A100 CAP ALUM 10UF 20% 100V RADIAL
4 493-10252-1-ND UMP1H010MDD1TP CAP ALUM 1UF 20% 50V RADIAL
1 399-7494-ND PME271Y510MR06 CAP FILM 10000PF 20% 1KVDC RAD
2 399-5410-ND PME271Y422MR30 CAP FILM 2200PF 20% 1KVDC RADIAL
1 EF2563-ND ECQ-E2563KF CAP FILM 0.056UF 10% 250VDC RAD
2 399-7482-ND PME271M568MR30 CAP FILM 0.068UF 20% 275VAC RAD
2 493-1421-ND UVZ2E331MRD CAP ALUM 330UF 20% 250V RADIAL
10 P10323-ND EEU-FC1H101 CAP ALUM 100UF 20% 50V RADIAL
1 P5856-ND ECA-2CHG100 CAP ALUM 10UF 20% 160V RADIAL
4 P11236-ND EEU-FC1V271 CAP ALUM 270UF 20% 35V RADIAL
2 P10345-ND EEU-FC1J181S CAP ALUM 180UF 20% 63V RADIAL

Note that I ordered a few extra values of some of the caps to meet price breaks. Total cost came to $30.02 without shipping.

Just like on my 2445B, I always use high quality Panasonic 105 C caps and original replacement RIFA film capacitors. The couple non-polarized caps are 105 C Nichicons along with the two large filter caps. None of the resistors in this power supply were damaged like on my 2445B, so I left them alone on this one.
2465B power supply with new capacitors

For my first power on test, the scope did power up, went through the first self-test cycling the panel LEDs, fan was running, but nothing on the CRT. Intensity controls had no effect. Even the graticule illumination was dead. Timebase, channel, and trigger controls responded to changes so the digital portions were at least working. Checking voltages, some were off and had ripple so I powered down and would wait for the capacitors to arrive.

Once all capacitors were replaced, powering up had the same result as before. Checking voltages they were all in spec now and the ripple I had was gone, but still no display. Time to reference the service manual.

One note on the 2465B service manual, I found three different versions all of which having some slightly different information. None of the info contradicted itself, just some manuals had more information than others. Once of the manuals looked to be for the older version of the 2465B where the A5 pcb was not using surface mount components, this was for early serial numbers . The other two looked to be newer. I ended up referencing all three throughout the repair process.

Following the troubleshooting flowcharts in the service manual, I ended up adjusting the grid bias adjustment which when increasing did give me a working display. Traces appeared along with on-screen graphics, but they were out of focus and had horizontal artifacts across the display. Intensity controls had no effect leading me to believe it was something with the Z axis processing based on the service manual flowcharts. The primary culprit would be the U950 hybrid which handles most of the Z axis functionality.

2565B with grid bias increased

Since I did have a somewhat readable display, at this point I was able to run the self-test routine outlined in the service manual to verify the rest of the functionality. In doing this, the scope passed with no issues, so good news there. I could also check power-on hours and cycles, 15703 and 2440 respectably. About 5k more hours than my 2445B but still not a high amount compared to some 24NN's I have seen that are well over 30K hours.

At this step, having a working donor scope makes troubleshooting significantly easier. All of the hybrid ic's on the main board are identical, with exception to U600 which has a different part number.  165-2393-00 on the 2445B and 155-0237-00 on the 2465B. Reading into this, they are compatible with the exception being that the 2445B version does not have 400MHz bandwidth. So I can use it for testing if necessary, it will just limit bandwidth on the 2465B to something under 400MHz. You would not want to use this long term in the 2465B.

Pulling parts from a working donor scope is always a little scary, I could end up with two non-working scopes in the process but parts are now plentiful on eBay for reasonable money.

2445B donating hybrids to the 2465B

Swapping U950 from my 2445B to the 2465B did fix the display issue. After turning the grid bias back down, the intensity and readout intensity controls now properly function. The display has a nice clear readout and clean trace. Looking on eBay, a working tested replacement U950 is about $50 - $60 which has been ordered.

Checking the rest of the scopes functionality I did notice another problem. As I adjust the horizontal timebase, the trace will disappear after increasing it beyond 2ms. Turn it back down and the trace will reappear. This behavior repeats for all 4 channels and is Y axis independent. Applying a signal has no change on behavior. Either the built in square wave calibrator or an external signal from a signal generator, the scope will lose trigger right around 2ms then have no trace at all beyond 1ms. Changing any setting, 20mhz bw, delayed timebase, other triggering options, etc made no difference. So something is up with the horizontal timebase and / or triggering on this scope.

One first attempt was to swap out the remaining hybrid ic's from my 2445B to the 2465B to at least eliminate another one of them being a possible issue. This ended up making no difference, so the next step will be to go back to the service manual. Their is a lengthy flowchart to debug horizontal trace issues, following this will be my next step. I'll leave this for a part II of the repair.